Clyde Deluxe Wah: Perfect Or Leeway For Improvement?
Adding Controlled Impedance Buffers To A Fulltone Clyde Deluxe Wah I

last update: Feb 25, 2014

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Incompatibility Issues And Looking Around
Reaping The Harvest  And Setting The Course For The Better
Installing The New PCB
Verdict
Sound Samples
Reference

Clyde Deluxe Wah
                          modded
The Clyde Wah, an unorthodox timeline:

1967 Vox made the "Clyde Wah". Those early wahs suffered from inferior bypass switching and impedance incompatibilities with other stomp box units, particularly fuzz faces. Input and output buffers came and went.
Early this century Fulltone produced the Clyde Deluxe,
which, despite all adornments, still has the Clyde Wah under its hood. Impedance problems still persisted. Recently they brought themselves to adding an output buffer at least, in my opinion still a half hearted solution.
My specimen stemmed from the the earlier generation (1st generation). But no longer. It is now subjectively superior to  their heir. Gen III so to speak. But, don´t misunderstand me - this pedal is built like a tank - indestructible.

Tripping Over The Wah Pedal And Fixing The Pot

Recently I tripped over my wah pedal, which has been living a quiet life for a long time. Needless to say, the pot was gone scratchy, not from permanent abuse, but from lying around.

I looked for a new pot, alas Fulltone makes it really cumbersome to obtain one. You have to proof that you own a pedal by making a video and such rigmarole.
There is a plethora of wah pots available, but there is also endless discussion as to which is best.
Fulltone claim this is some special product, others think different. We have to believe it. It is of course beyond discussion that using a pot this way is an abuse right from the start.

Since it was already sentenced to death I could just as well try the magic spray healing. I ordered Deoxit D-5 (the 5% solution) and some Fader 100 (which is 100% of the brew).

The first step strips all residue and the second one lubricates again. Gone is the crackling, but the useful friction too. Tightening the treadle´s nylon lock nut helps a little, but making the plastic flange, that looks like a cable tie, press harder onto the gearstick, did the trick.


This spray cure is by the way a procedure recommended by Fulltone himself. Never use any WD-40 or other strange stuff. WD-40 essentially consists of de-greasers! If your pot is finished mechanically, the cure will only be temporary. D-5 strips all gunk from the pot track in a beneficial way, but also removes lubricant, which will speed up wear. D-5 lubricates a little, but not enough. Re-lubricating with Fader 100 is technically correct, but leaves you with less track friction than you need. Fader Grease works much better for controlled friction.
Since my pot cannot possibly have gone bad by excessive usage, this may as well have been the end of that story. And no, I do not receive money from any of them. To the contrary, it costed me a lot.

But this is just as an aside to the story that ensued.

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Incompatibility Issues And Looking Around

I ran the wah into my butterscotch fuzz to see how this behaves with a wah in front, since not all distortion units sound good this way. The wah sounded inferior. No, it was not the fuzz unit, it was the wah´s problem. Its range was constricted and tone left a lot to be desired. I suspected an impedance problem and this turned out to be the case.
I plugged a mobile buffer in between them and this cured all problems. This then kindled my interest in the innards of the Clyde wah to see what can be improved.


"Necessity is the mother of invention."  
                                                                                                                                           
- old saying

So what is there? There is one schematic floating around the internet that somebody drew after reverse engineering the Clyde Deluxe (apparently the first generation version without the output adjustment).

Looking at this you would have thought they had invented something new, but the schematic mentioned was just drawn in a way that was confusing. I looked closer and compared it to other devices and it turns out, it´s just a plain 50 years old wah adorned with some bells and whistles. This was quite sobering to me, since they create an appropriate illusion (like everybody does).

There are several approaches[1] in the public domain, that end up quite similar. One of them that has been documented well is the Weener Wah by Madbean (which I suspect is a clone), and this then grew my reference schematic.

Those improvements over the age old originals boil down to
  • a switchable capacitor stack for changing the frequencies and a
  • front panel potentiometer to change the gain of transistor #1.
  • Later improvements add a no-load bypass scheme and even later
  • output buffering with some measure to adjust gain

The Weener Wah has a 10k resistor in series with the output, which goes without further attention. This however deserves mentioning since it adds source impedance to the output in the magnitude of a pickup´s wire resistance, which will drive the tiredest fuzz face nicely without choking it.
Any volume loss encountered by the 10k drive impedance over a fuzz face´s 2k input impedance can then be counteracted with the variable output gain control. For a "modern"  high impedance input following, this will be redundant.

The current Clyde Deluxe model has all this built in, although I do not know about output impedance. Many people sell a mysterious wah buffer retrofit circuit with magic impedance match, which in my opinion is snake oil that can be reduced to exactly that:

10kresistor, the wonder weapon
The magic output impedance increaser, Snake Oil Co.

10k source (drive-) resistance or thereabouts is a value you would expect from a guitar pickup, so this creates comparable conditions for subsequent effect pedals. I used 6.8k, which is exactly what one would expect from a single coil pickup.

Other observations: on the original, upon changing the vocal cap selection, you might experience howls due to the rotary switches´ contacts that go momentarily intermittent. The Weener Wah has a few 10M resistors there to minimize this. You can retrofit this on the fly easily. This changes nothing in tone.

Long story cut short, I  went to upgrade my wah to a better than current commercial version with a buffer board.

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Reaping The Harvest  And Setting The Course For The Better

First obstacle to PCB making was to find out what was inside and what was going where.

  • The schematic mystery was solved - it is a plain old Vox wah, or any of them. The Weener Wah is an almost exact representation of the circuit. In fact I bet they even made a PCB that fits those simple models too, since all extra parts reside on external PCBs (there is even a marking on the bottom of the PCB saying "Clyde 1998" or similar). This went as far as when it was time to add a 1M pulldown resistor, this was placed onto the rotary switch assembly rather than on the main PCB. I am speculating here, but I can find no other reason for this move.
  • Next obstacle to be conquered was the bypass switching scheme. It turns out, this is a true bypass, but a quite uncommon millennium bypass circuit[5]. R.G. Keen describes a method for a true bypass with annunciation using just a DPDT footswitch. My specimen of the pedal is maybe 10 years old, I cannot imagine that back then 3PDT switches were so unobtainable or expensive that the extra effort for the high impedance detector and LED switching circuit was warranted. It seems that again the designers were trying to save at all cost. So this enigma was debunked too.
Choosing a suitable buffer architecture

For a buffer, that is meant to be transparent, I cannot find any rational excuse for it to be discrete. Even worse, some very basic self-biasing j-fet arrangements that have been used frequently in the past[2] may invite headroom problems[3]. So an op-amp will perform very nicely and unobtrusive. Even more so for a buffer with gain. There are three approaches[4] to variable gain, I chose a variable gain amplifier for maximum headroom and no input/output impedance tampering.

A full boost and cut approach carries the risk of clipping, whereas a cut and full boost approach does a bad job on impedance.


Although a very simple j-fet self-biased buffer would be perfectly feasible before the wah circuit, this would appear ridiculous in the vicinity of an op-amp already there.

Controlled output impedance

The output buffer will be functionally equal to Madbean´s version, but with a fixed output impedance

Note that the Weener Wah buffer, suffers from variable output impedance due to the variable resistance following. The self biasing j-fet also possibly promotes clipping of large signals. The 10k series resistor adds to the natural drive impedance dictated by the j-fet´s drain resistor, which however is, dependent on the chosen j-fet, inpredictable.

As different to the Weener Wah, which can bypass the output buffer entirely, I do believe the output buffer´s high input impedance is beneficial to the wah circuit in all circumstances, so there is no provision made to bypass this altogether (and drive the subsequent stomp box directly, as the original did). I think this would be a step back.

For a stock fuzz face an elevated drive impedance in the magnitude of a pickup´s resistance is mandatory for the fuzz face to operate as expected, whereas a "modern" high impedance input will remain largely unaffected by this.
However, bypassing the output impedance by providing a low impedance drive may proof useful one day. Provision is there my means of the switch.

As we will see, controlled output impedance is also useful for the input buffer.

Input buffer

Also, there is nothing to be gained by driving the wah without input buffer sound wise. In earlier days they had wahs equipped with output switching only, meaning the input´s load was attached permanently, even when the wah was off.

People complained about tone degradation which was counteracted with an input buffer, that was permanently in line despite the footswitch´s position.  Maybe a suitable switch was not available back then, or not at a reasonable price.

So if there was tone degradation perceived, it is there, although some feel differently
[7].
I agree that buffer after buffer makes no sense. But it makes sense, for example to buffer the guitar´s pickup from the capacitive cable load, plus from any alleged resistive input load that would render the volume control useless.
The other way around, it also makes sense to buffer an input from any preceding load. It is true that this changes tone, every measure changes tone. The question is, is this for the better? Chances are, with impedance matching you don´t have any frequency or dynamic loss, and yes, you may interpret this as being harsher. However, this can be counteracted with a twist on the tone control or a little taming capacitor in the right spot in a controllable manner. For this matter, the Weener Wah has a small cap on the output.
The input impedance of the output buffer can be tailored for this purpose, if somebody thinks a lower value will work some magic.

Let´s look at the input of a typical wah, which has this 68k resistor in series. This is obviously determining gain, and any additional resistance, such as the pickup´s series resistance, will modify this. So again, if you think the wah feelss better when this is there, 10k is your friend. If you decide to provide an input buffer on your PCB (recommended), you can use it or not, or try the 10k in series to the input buffer´s output. I fail to see how an arrangement like this could possibly damage tone.
Isolating the wah circuit from the device before is always a good idea, since this creates a controlled environment. So a buffer goes there too into the bargain. We D.I.Y.´ers are not pushed by the penny.

Another argument that definitely speaks for an input buffer, is noise:


"Most popular DIY wahs use BJTs, which have high current noise. They're a fundamentally poor choice for use with guitar pickups; it's the price you pay for using 1960s technology. (...)
The answer is to use a JFET buffer (or JFET input opamp buffer), which have very low current noise.
"
 

-merlinb (Merlin Blencowe) on diystompboxes.com

Needless to say, the pulldown resistor (previously external antpop resistor) resides on the new PCB, so the extra cabling is redundant.
A pulldown resistor with similar function is placed on the output (100k) which is also needed to make the annunciation circuitry working.

circuit,
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Wah Buffer Upgrade (click to download PDF file):

you are going to need a PDF viewer to view this file.            
This is the schematic for the buffering and wiring.
Note to the left there is the original wiring scheme depicted for clarity.

                         


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Installing The New PCB

The new PCB is mounted directly onto the pot and the switch, which holds it firm in its position. This incidentally is the same position Fulltone have chosen for their new Deluxe model.

As mentioned earlier, the 2PDT footswitch is a valid full bypassing scheme, so no need to change this. The prerequisites for the bypass switchs´ state detection are unchanged, so LED annunciation will continue to work as before. Look up the description below to understand how that works[6].

Note this version of a bypass switch does not null the input as contemporary switching schemes do. However since there is no high gain circuitry involved, noise buildup and interference caused by a floating input is not to be expected.

Power conditioning on the original is a shame (again, an age old construction).  It has been upgraded with better power supply filtering on the buffer board. This is so dirt cheap it makes you wonder...

I realize I should have made pictures prior to the upgrades, before and after.

Detail: viewing the inside connections
Make new input connections

  • On the bypass switch, cut the red wire on the top left of the stomp switch (prior: switched input) going to the rot switch assembly (bottom arrow).
    It only connects to a 1M pulldown resistor. This is now included on the new input buffer board. Heat shrink the wire in case you ever want to revert to original (who would want this?). I don´t know why they used the color red for this wire. This is usually associated with power.
  • Unsolder the second red wire (on the picture beneath) that disappears under the rot switch assembly (input to the main PCB). Put it aside momentarily.
  • connect the now empty switch lug with input buffer´s input lug (yellow wire)
The jack input (center left lug) that was routed into the main board previously, now goes into the input buffer.                         
Detail: wiring of the buffer
Connect buffered input to main board

  • connect the second red wire you put aside earlier to the input buffer´s output lug (green wire) with a 10k resistor between the wires.
  • use heat shrink tubing to cover the joints.
The input buffer´s output lug  now goes into the main board.
Crank the wah to confirm this has worked.
                         
The 10k resistor emulates a pickup going directly into the wah board.
Detail: wiring of the buffer output
Connect output buffer

  • unsolder the black the wire (right arrow) from the center top lug (prior: going to the wah pot)
  • connect it to the output buffer´s input lug (as shown)
  • connect the now empty center switch lug with the output buffer´s output lug (blue wire). Done.
Crank the wah to confirm this has worked.                  


A look on the new knobs
Them new knobbies            

The new functions on the bench so to speak.

Be very cautious with the size of the PCB, space is very rare in there. Don´t forget you need space for the rather clumsy wah pot.



Note that I chose a 25k logarithmic pot for the level control. I was not sure if log is the right law in this position, but volume change works smooth over its travel.

10 meg resistors retrofit
Adding the 10M resistors            

upon changing the vocal cap selection with the Whacked/Jimi/Shaft rotary switch, you might experience howls due to the switches´ contacts going momentarily intermittent. Two 10M (two 4.7M in series) will fix this. You still hear a plop when switching. Soda bottle plop. Try to switch in moments of silence.

wah detail main board
Stinkfoot wah mods[8].
  • on both pots clip off the CW lug. Resistance increases clockwise. Make a mark on the pot for the original value (1.5k / 33k)
  • trim pot on the right: made the 1k5 adjustable for more mids (5k)
    increase mids clockwise
  • trim pot left: made the 33k adjustable for changed vocal response. (100k)
    increase filter Q clockwise (resp. narrow bandwidth)
  • trim pot bottom: original. Bass/gain adjustment. Increasing the resistance yields a thinner sound - not to my like.
I like increased mids by a factor of two, but rather reduced the 33k setting to 25, because higher Q´s tend to create more clipping - sounds great clean, but produces a strange energetic peak halfway, most noticeable with gain pedals afterwards.

It gets pretty crammed there with the new components.
Thanks Andreas for not creating more enigma, but disenchanting some.


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Verdict

The new circuit works as expected - perfectly.
When I did drive the Butterscotch Fuzz with the wah earlier, its medium load (100k) changed the wah´s tone dramatically. I now can drive subsequent dirt boxes no problem, with neither tone degradation on the wah side nor the fuzz side.  Output gain at minimum position is slightly greater than one, so for high impedance devices it can remain there.

Funny effects when switching caps are minimized. LED annunciation works as before.
Functionally the wah is now at least en par to Fulltone´s current Deluxe model. Very likely superior, because my circuit aims for the best result and is not money-driven.

The pedal is very well made mechanically, the inductor is screened with mu-metal to avoid hum intrusion. Wheter the well advertised long-life wah pot lives up to its expectations, we will see. I would not hesitate to try any other quality ICAR type pot. Altogether a hell of a wah device.


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Sound Samples

The subsequent recordings have been done using the following setup and no further processing:

  • Strat with Bill Lawrence (Wilde Pickups) microcoils, pickups as specified,
  • J-FET buffer directly after the guitar
  • Clyde Deluxe Wah modded as described. Mode=whacked, input level=12, output level=7 (unity), impedance=high.
  • Butterscotch Fuzz: Fuzz=15, Tone=7 (full bass) (Total volume is only slightly louder than unity to really hear what the fuzz is doing...)
  • Wampler Euphoria Overdrive, setting = natural. Gain = 1. Slight crunch appears when guit. vol = full and heavy playing. This mimics a tube amp on the edge of breakup as discussed in Using The Fuzz Right
  • Peavey Bandit 112 silver stripe, clean channel, Resonance on, T-Dynamics fully down, volume=9, all others=12
  • Rode M3 mic @ 20cm distance
  • Recording device: Focusrite PC interface into DAW
(Names may be copyrighted by the associated copyright holder, no association with any of them)

A few quick and nasty takes. No exercise in timing or else, just to demonstrate the effects. Excuse the amateur playing. Crank you speakers. Sounds darker on my Hifi than live.

Clean guitar with Clyde Deluxe wah:
first you hear the clean guitar (full volume), then wah



Butterscotch Fuzz only:
first, guitar volume at 15, then at 17, then at 18 (full)



Butterscotch Fuzz with Clyde Deluxe wah:
first, guitar volume at 15, then at 17, then at 18 (full)



Power-Trio Wah Jam: EZ Drummer / ATK bass / Strat (as above) into DAW. untreated.
Some things make more sense in a context. Note: there is NO fuzz on this guitar, just a little breakup due to the Euphoria. Sounds much more organic this way.


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Reference

[1] some designs similar to the Deluxe Wah in the public domain:
  • Madbean - Weener Wah II
  • BBE Ben Wah / Vertex Axis Wah
  • Wah with mods by Harald Sabro
[2] Philip Bryant (Fuzz Central), Vox Clyde McCoy Wah (The Clyde McCoy Wah Revealed),
     https://fuzzcentral.ssguitar.com/mccoy.php
[3] Jack Orman (AMZ): Wah pedal buffer,
    
http://www.muzique.com/news/wah-pedal-buffer/
[4] Jack Orman (AMZ): Boosters, Gain and Distortion (why booster pedals do not all sound alike),
    
http://www.muzique.com/lab/boost.htm

[5] R.G. Keen (GEO): The Ins and Outs of Effect Bypassing,
    
http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/bypass/bypass.htm

[6] R.G. Keen (GEO): The Milennium Bypass - True Bypass and LED indicator with only a DPDT,
     http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/millenium/millen.htm
[7] DIYstompboxes: Buffer? or no buffer?, https://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=94775.0
[8] Andreas Möller (Stinkfoot): diverse excellent wah modding articles in one placehttp://stinkfoot.se

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